TOP 3 National Park Disappearances | Missing 411 part 1
Every year hundreds of people go missing in national parks and of those that vanish, there are a few with mysterious circumstances...
The top 3 National Park Disappearances researched by former police detective, David Paulides, are discussed in this episode.
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Tatiana: Two Ukrainian tourist or kayaking
along a river and the Hamar Dibond
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mountain range and Southern Siberia.
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While they're paddling along.
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They look over into the
surrounding wilderness.
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And see a girl standing there
screaming and waving her arms.
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It was so desperate looking that they
immediately realized something was wrong.
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So they go to the shore and the
girl rushes to the woman and just
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sobs on her chest for a long time.
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And then the crying girl says.
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People had died and she was scared.
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So the tourist immediately took
the girl to the rescue service.
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It's August 9th, 1993.
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And what the girl told the kayakers
sounded strangely similar to the Loft
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past incident that happened in 1959.
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When she finally does tell her story, it
would be one of two times she ever spoke
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about the bloody and violent incident.
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That has sparked conspiracy
theories for decades.
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And when she gave a very
brief interview in 2018.
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It's still left many
questions and answered.
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This is the story of the
Corvina group disaster.
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I'm Tatiana.
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And this is occurrence.
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Seven hikers from Kazakhstan,
we're planning a hiking trip
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that spanned almost 50 miles.
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The group had adults and young
teenagers in it and was planning a
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route of category four difficulty.
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The highest difficulty at the
time was category five or six.
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It was the summer and the weather
was forecasted to be tame.
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But as we'll come to find out
that wasn't the case at all.
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This hype was led by lewd Milla.
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Corvina a 41 year old woman who was
an experienced leader and considered
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a master of sports and tourism.
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She was a leader in a tourist club
and that's where the rest of the
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hikers and the group came from.
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For six months, she had the young hikers
preparing in advance for the hike.
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they wrote out their meals for each day.
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Ludmilla plan a clear route down
to the hour and she determined who
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would carry what everyone had been
on multiple hikes with her already.
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So she was familiar
with their capabilities.
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Tatiana Filipino was there.
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She was 24 years old
and loved the mountains.
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Alexander Christen was 23 years old
and met lewd Milla as a teenager.
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Dennis
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was 19 years old and gone
to the group by accident.
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He was a member of the
tourist club and new Corvina.
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Well, but he replaced a guy whose
parents wouldn't let him go.
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Dennis, his parents were actually
at a resort when this happened.
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So he left them a note saying,
quote, I went to the mountains.
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I'll be back soon.
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End quote.
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Valentina Udo.
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Chico was 17 years old and she grew up
in a village and was always on the farm.
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Now Victoria is Ella Sova was
16 years old and the one person
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who'd Milla didn't want to take.
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Victoria would lose her temper when
she was tired and became unstable.
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But her mother told lewd Mila, she
would behave and not let anyone down.
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So she was allowed to join.
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The youngest in the group
was Timur backing off.
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And he was 15 years old and
grew up in the mountains.
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His parents were fond of sports, tourism.
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and raised him to love it too.
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While lewd Miller's group was hiking.
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There would be three more
groups passing nearby.
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One of them was led by 16
year old daughter, Natalia.
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They plan to meet at the end
of the route on lake pat off.
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Lewd Mila had said that her group
was backup for an Italian group.
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If anything went wrong.
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So on August 2nd, 1993, the
group set off for their journey.
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And at first things were good.
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The weather was decent and the
group was ahead of schedule to hit
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the meeting spot with Natalia's
group, but they would never make it.
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Two days later, they reached
a treeless Alpine area.
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They prepared food on premise
stoves and by 4:00 PM they
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had made some more progress.
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But the weather was horrible now.
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It was cold and they were being
hit with heavy rain and some snow,
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which soaked through their supplies
and slowed them down because of
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how heavy it made everything.
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But instead of moving down into the nearby
forest or continuing up another 30 minutes
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to an established shelter, who'd Mila
had them set up camp on an exposed slope.
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They set up two tents and went
down for the night, but at
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4:00 AM, the tent ropes broke.
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They were fixed, but by 6:00 AM, the
sleeping bags were wet and Valentina
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had been physically ill and vomited.
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By 10:00 AM on August 5th.
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Alexander went and said
they were wet and freezing.
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And I assume that this, him coming
to the tent with lewd, Mila and
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Valentina in it and saying that.
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They were supposed to
meet Natalia that day.
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But later that evening, when Natalia's
group made it to the meeting spot.
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Lewd Miller's group would not
show and Natalia's group moved on.
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Just assuming her mother's group was
delayed from the weather, but fine.
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The reality was far different.
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After they ate breakfast, lewd Mila
had everyone gathered their backpacks
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and started climbing down the hill.
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They made it about 30 feet and then
Alexander just started screaming.
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He was in the back of the group.
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So everyone turned to look at what
was happening and they saw that
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he's bleeding from his eyes and
ears and frothing at the mouth.
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Then he falls to the ground
and starts convulsing.
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And then he stops.
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Ludmilla orders everyone else to get down
the slope while she runs to Alexander.
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She's distraught and trying
to get him to wake up.
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But then the group here
is lewd Miller cry out.
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So they stop running and
turn to go back to her.
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As they're running back to see
why she was making that sound.
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They see, she has the exact
same symptoms as Alexander.
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Ludmilla eyes and nose.
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We're pouring blood.
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And she was frothing at the mouth.
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Then she started convulsing and
collapsed on top of Alexander.
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At that point, Tatiana was
the first truthfully Myla.
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And she collapsed grabbing at her throat.
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Like she couldn't breathe.
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Then she started crawling towards a rock.
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And when she reached it,
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Tatiana started bashing your head
against it until she went limp.
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Now Victoria and Timur started running
around and Dennis had behind a rock.
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Valentina is just stuck.
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She's frozen in place.
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And just watching everyone die around her.
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It only felt like a few minutes.
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Victoria and Tamara collapsed
while running and started grabbing
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their throats and tearing off their
clothes while throwing up blood.
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Dennis runs to Victoria and kicks her
and tells her to run down the slope.
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So they do.
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But as they were running, Dennis
collapsed and started convulsing.
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Valentina, obviously scared
for her life kept running until
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she was away from what she just
witnessed and surrounded by trees.
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She only had a tent for supplies.
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So she set up her tent for
the night and fell asleep.
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The next morning, realizing
she was still alive.
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Felon.
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Tina knew she needed to find people.
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She knew a river was nearby.
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And if she followed the
river, she would be saved.
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So she returned to where she
left the others still in moving.
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She took a map in food from their
belongings and closed their open eyes.
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According to a rescuer who
discovered the group later.
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Felon.
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Tina also covered them with a tent.
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Which may have contributed to
the state they were found in,
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but I'll get back to that later.
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Valentina made it to the river by
following power lines, but was unable
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to walk on the Rocky shores or walk in
the water due to the strong current.
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She had a fever and strong cough
and could tell she was falling ill.
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So she began to prepare to die.
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But she didn't want to die dirty and ugly.
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So she washed herself and all her
dirty items off in the icy river.
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Then she changed into her clean clothes
and hung the wet items on branches to dry.
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And it was at this point, she
spotted the kayakers and was saved.
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Valentina Udo Chenko was the
only survivor of this disaster.
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And the story of her group's deaths
sparked All kinds of theories.
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It would take two weeks for the
rescuers to locate the group's
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remains because allegedly the weather
was too bad to use a helicopter.
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So rescuers had to go on foot
when the weather was better
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to go and find the group.
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And when they were found, it was so
horrific that to this day, the rescuers
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voice is tremble when they talk about it.
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Now due to the descriptions of their
deaths, there's obviously something amiss.
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Conspiracy similar to the pass, came
out, including nerve gas, military
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weapons, aliens, and so much more.
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But I'll tell you why.
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I don't quiet by it being
a conspiracy at all later.
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URI Golias.
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was honored for his work and the rescue.
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And he said it was a terrible scene.
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everyone was found lying on a small ledge.
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Some very close together
and others further away.
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They had very little clothing on,
some were just wearing thin leotards
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and some were without shoes.
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There were no eyes, just worms
and MTI sockets and open mounts.
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Due to them being covered with
the tent, the decomposition
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and the smell of that process.
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Even in the body bags.
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I made the helicopter ride back, quote.
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Impossible.
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The autopsy would reveal the cause of
death for everyone to be hypothermia.
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Except for lead Milla
who had a heart attack.
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Everyone had signs of Bruce lungs and
protein deficiency from malnutrition
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and the deaths were ruled accidental.
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Now clearly the official report and
Valentina story don't seem to match.
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Like I said before, Russian military
experiments and conspiracies were
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a big one for this tragedy, but
the Hamar, Dubai and mountains
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are a very public hiking location.
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At least where these hikers were at.
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With many people traveling throughout
any time, especially in the summer.
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And don't forget they
were in an open area.
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They weren't surrounded by trees in some
remote area that would make more sense
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for a top secret military experiment.
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It's Siberia.
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There are so many other locations for
something like that to be taking place.
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Now the nerve agent is kind of plausible.
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if this group just had very bad luck.
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And this theory is from
YouTuber cadaver and Natasha M's
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medium article on this event.
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It may have been possible for
a specific gas to be the cause.
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Apparently this class of nerve agents
was created and used by Soviet Russia
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until 1993 and is believed to be
the deadliest nerve agent to exist.
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The nerve agents were reportedly
tested in areas near the Hamar.
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The bond region and the rapid death that
caused mimics what happened to the hikers?
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it's water soluble and can
take four months to evaporate.
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And the particles often
float close to the ground.
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According to Natasha's article.
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If the agent had been tested high up
in the mountains a few months prior.
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Then the constant rain would have
washed the tested product down
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the mountain and to their hill.
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And the morning, most of the
water evaporated with the sun.
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But somehow Alexander stepped
into a contaminated spot and
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everyone going to that area minus
Valentina, since she kept away.
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Eventually died.
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My problem with that theory is
that they were wet that night.
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That very morning.
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Alexander said how cold and
what everyone was in Belen.
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Tina reported everyone's
sleeping bags were wet.
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So if there was an ERV agent
coming through the rain or running
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down the hill, it would have
gotten to everyone overnight.
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And contaminated drinking water would
have had other groups in the mountain
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experience, a similar situation.
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Mushroom poisoning is plausible
and people who are hallucinating
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do often see others crying blood.
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It would explain the inconsistency
with Valentina story and the autopsy.
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But here's what I think happened.
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It's largely from URI,
the rescuers belief.
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URI is positive that the hikers
were killed by their leader.
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Lewd Milla Corvina.
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Before you freak out.
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Let me explain.
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You see, you're renewed Milla
way before this tragedy.
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She was athletic
strong-willed and beautiful.
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And they once cross paths on a mountain.
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She was with two 16 ish year old boys
and they looked absolutely exhausted.
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One of the boys was so weak.
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He couldn't even lift
an ax to chop firewood.
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So you're he gave them tea and bread.
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Allegedly, they inhaled it.
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Like they've never eaten
anything in their life.
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In response to that, Ludmilla said that
she practices the school of survival.
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This is when a group goes on a hike
with minimal food and clothing.
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It's apparently how she raises them
to be ready for unforeseen situations.
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And this was a regular
thing for her hikes.
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Allegedly the students would come back.
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Absolutely exhausted
nearly every single time.
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To the point where some parents didn't
want their kids hiking with lewd Myla.
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She believed in no extra
or excessive clothing.
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No extra food and packing very lightly.
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So I believe since she thought
the weather would be okay.
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The hikers weren't in loud clothing
that would've kept them warm and
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the weather that they experienced.
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Even though at night it said
a jacket still needed on that
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mountain, even in the summer.
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I believe with the cold weather
and with the minimal clothing,
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the hikers were suffering from
the beginnings of hyperthermia.
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And I think they were also
suffering from mountain sickness.
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Mountain sickness is when after reaching
2000 meters on a mountain, you start
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to suffer from oxygen, starvation.
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And since everyone died at 2,300 meters.
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I'd say that was possible.
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Weakness, headache and nausea
accompany that sickness and
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Valentina threw up that morning.
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her weakness and detachment
are very present in her story.
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in her more recent interview, Valentina
swears, they ate four times a day.
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However in her first interview, closer
to after when this event happened.
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She said they add out of those little
stoves, which do not hold a lot of food.
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And when Yuri was searching for the
hikers, he saw that there was evidence of
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only one can of soup being shared between
seven hikers for breakfast that morning.
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So I believe that they were malnourished.
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They were suffering from
hypothermia and mountain sickness.
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Alexander collapsed first, being the
largest and strongest and needing the
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most calories in those conditions.
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Him being the first to
die caused lewd Mila.
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I have a heart attack because she
was so close to Alexander and it
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said that she saw him As her own son.
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This causes a spike in the stress levels
and blood pressure of the rest of the
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group causing their symptoms to expedite.
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And lead to having a pulmonary edema.
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I'm not sure if I believe everyone died
back to back or if it was more spread out.
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And Valentina later said she wasn't
sure how long it lasted either.
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But I do think Valentina survived
because she said she had been chewing
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on a lot of golden roots, which
are rich in nutrients and vitamins.
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Everyone had a spiny of it in
their bags, but it's unknown.
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If the others were
snacking, like Valentina.
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I would guess not since I'm
assuming it wasn't allowed.
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Because apparently while on the mountain,
lewd Mila made a long stop with the group
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and had everyone collect golden roots.
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Ludmilla had two large bags of the
roots in her backpack and its belief.
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She collected it to sell later.
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Even though you aren't
supposed to do this.
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If I'm being honest, I think
Valentina didn't want to talk about
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what happened for a long time,
because she didn't know what to say.
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It's my opinion that she didn't
want to disparage lewd Milla.
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And if she told the truth of
what happened, it would've
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been twisted into even worse
stories than there already were.
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Following the tragedy.
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I can't say I blame her for being young
at the time and wanting to not further
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upset the parents of the other hikers.
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Who to this day still trusted, mellow
and don't believe she did anything wrong.
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I do want to be clear and say, I don't
think lewd Milla had an intention of
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anything even close to this happening.
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Her greatest mistake in my book
was trusting the weather service.
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And instead of preparing for a hike with
the worst case scenario in mind, as far
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as preparation and supplies, she went with
the mindset that nothing would go wrong.
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And if it did, they could figure it
out using simple survival skills.
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To me, this is a cautionary tale
about a disaster that didn't have
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to happen, but unfortunately did.
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Everyone is a victim in this story.
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