Snowboarder Disappears Descending Tallest Mountain in the World | Marco Siffredi
Marco Siffredi was a french mountaineer and snowboarder who disappears on a mountain, specifically when attempting to snowboard down mount Everest.
He rose to fame in extreme sports because of his daring nature and can-do attitude on mountains.
Siffredi's snowboard attempt of Mount Everest was a pivotal moment for snowboarders and secured Siffredi a title in the history books.
Marco Siffredi vanished on an expedition and speculation surrounds his whereabouts today.
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Sources
- Evans, J. (2021). See You Tomorrow : The Disappear. Falcon Guides.
- https://www.renerobert.net/work/great-alpinists-jean-marc-boivin/
- https://tahoequarterly.com/best-of-tahoe-2021/the-unsolved-case-of-marco-siffredi
- https://allthatsinteresting.com/marco-siffredi
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Tatiana: When you think of conquering
Mount Everest, the only thing that
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crosses your mind is climbing up and down
the mountain and making it out alive.
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And hopefully in one piece,
Sometimes people increase the
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challenge by climbing without oxygen
or taking more difficult routes.
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But for Marcos, if ready, just
climbing up and down Mount Everest.
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Wasn't in that.
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He was an extreme sportsman and dreamed of
descending Mount Everest on a snowboard.
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He had successfully gone down major
Himalayan mountains by snowbird before.
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And he surprisingly, wasn't the
only one to attempt to going down
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Mount Everest this way either.
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But on September 8th, 2002, Martha was
standing on the summit of Mount Everest.
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Looking out at what would
be his spam dissent with his
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Sherpas standing beside him.
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Would they didn't know at the time
was that this trip would go very
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differently from every other one before.
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I'm Tatiana.
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And this.
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Is occurrence.
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Marcos a Freddie was born and
shimmy France on May 22nd, 1979.
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And he came from a climate family.
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In fact, he came from a climbing town.
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Chamonix, France was surrounded by
mountains, specifically, Mont Blanc.
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People of all ages would die
trying to climb these mountains.
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Uh, most were in their twenties and
thirties, but some were as young as
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teenagers and the collective ambition
to conquer the mountains caused
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climbers to perish at such a quick rate.
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At the cemetery of
Shimoni was in disarray.
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There was almost an air of living
with purpose above all else.
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No matter how short your life is.
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Death was an accepted,
but unspoken thing there.
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It's just something that happens when you
spend so much time in the mountains, when
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you prioritize climbing Over everything.
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In 1994, Margot's father Felipe.
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Bought Marco.
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His first snowboard as snowboarding
was growing in popularity and
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a close friend introduced Marco
to back country snowboarding.
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Where people go down mountains on their
own snowboard and off the official tracks.
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And this immediately became a
passion of Marcos, which was ironic.
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Considering growing up, his
parents could not get him to do
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outdoor activities with them.
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As a child, his father said they had to
force him to go on, walks with them and
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he would cry and whine the entire time.
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They didn't even bother trying to
teach them to climb because of this.
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So Marco actually taught
himself how to do those things.
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But now Marco was starting
to find his identity.
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His punk rock gear, devil identity.
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He had neon hair and a gap in his teeth.
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June 17th, 1996, Marco plan
to be the second person
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To descend the north
face of ugly, do muddy.
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A very dangerous slope
in the Montblanc region.
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And he would be the first
to do it on a snowboard.
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The only other person to do it
before him was John mark boy.
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And he wasn't on a snowboard,
but he was Marco's hero.
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His mother, Michelle couldn't stop him
no matter how hard she tried and had
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to sit and wait and hope he succeeded.
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Because at this point, Mirko had
only been snowboarding for a year.
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Michelle, who was from a wealthy family,
was a secretary and a part-time ski coach.
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Marcos father Felipe actually had a
passion for climbing mountains too.
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He was a part-time mountain guide
because his own father persuaded
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him to pursue a different lifestyle.
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One that was safer.
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So he became a hairstylist.
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But that made Felipe bow, that
he would never show this children
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from the mountains or stop them
from pursuing their own callings.
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But I wonder if he would have changed his
mind if he had no with the future health.
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But now Marco climbed the mountain
with Louie Lassage and it was
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their first time climbing together.
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While they're climbing Marco could
just, feel his dream within arms reach.
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Going down, his native mountain was
something he felt compelled to do.
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He had been studying every nook
and cranny of Aguille du midi
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through binoculars for so long.
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He couldn't put off his dream anymore.
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Seven hours after beginning to climb
Marco and Louis reached the summit
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and Marco was ready to make history.
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He strapped on a snowboard
with what felt like the entire
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town watching with binoculars.
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And descended the mountain.
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He made it to the bottom without
taking off the snowboard and at 17.
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He made history.
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He had his supporters in town, but he
also had a lot of people calling him
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crazy and telling him he would be dead
soon because Marco didn't care about
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the mountain guides or their rules.
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He started to plan even more
dangerous and challenging descents.
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Because Marco has set his
sights on Mount Everest.
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He now wanted to be the first person
to go down the tallest mountain
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in the world on a snowboard.
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But first he conquered Huayna.
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Potosi.
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Uh, 6,000 or mountain in Bolivia.
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Which was just short of 20,000 feet tall.
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After that he made his, Everest goal known
and Felipe pointed him in the direction
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of the safest mountaineer he knew of.
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Russell Brice.
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Russell was the owner of Himalayan
experience, a climbing expedition company.
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He had never had a single death in
any of his expedition groups before.
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So Marco reached out to
Russell and Russell doesn't
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really take them seriously.
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He's used to people being interested
in climbing with him until they
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hear the cost of his expeditions.
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But Russell agreed to meet
at a pub back in Shimoni.
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And when he laid eyes on Marco, he
couldn't take it seriously at all.
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Marco a teenager, all punk rock
looking with this neon colored
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hair and a gap in his teeth.
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Approached Russell with a lawyer.
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And Russell's confused because he doesn't
know why Marco would bring a lawyer.
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A lawyer wouldn't force him
to take Marco to Everest.
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Marco needed to convince him to do that.
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As they sat there talking, the
idea started to grow on Russell.
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He realized that Marco's outward
appearance was very different
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from his calm personality.
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So Russell lets him
know snowboarding down.
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Everest is possible.
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But he needed to conquer
other 8,000 dispersed.
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Marco doesn't hesitate
and agrees immediately.
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So he goes to his
parents and makes a deal.
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His parents would pay him in advance
and he would work at the campsite
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that his family owned in town to
work it off over a few years time.
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Now Marco, wasn't an only child.
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He had a brother and a sister
And Marco and his sister worked
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at the camp site together.
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His brother Pierre loved the mountains
too, but when Marco was just 18
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months old, Pierre was killed in
an avalanche on the mountains.
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His parents didn't talk about it
when Marco was young, but when he
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was six, He saw an avalanche on TV.
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And pointed to it and say, Pierre,
The loss of his brother, clearly
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didn't slow down his ambitions
or stop his parents from funding.
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His adventures.
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And future loss.
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Wouldn't stop him either.
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He conquered all the mountains around
chimney and plan to travel, to conquer
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more challenging mountains, further away.
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But before he left, one of his friend's
mothers gave him a small cross.
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As a talisman for protection.
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And Marco would wear it
for all, but one trip.
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Two friends went with Marco when he left
your conquer, the mountains of the world.
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Phillip Fort and Renee Roberts.
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Renee was actually a photographer
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and recorded most of Marco's attempts.
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Now Russell told Marco when
they met to take things slow.
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But that's not what Marco would do.
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First, they went to the 6 thousander.
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Tocllaraju, in Peru
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Then they went to Nepal where he
successfully descended a 30,000
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foot mountain named Dorje Lhakpa
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And then in 1999, Phillip Fort
was killed in an avalanche,
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just like Marco's brother.
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That wouldn't stop Marco though.
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In 2000, he went on to conquer Cho.
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Oh, you.
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And 8,000 around that was almost
27,000 feet above sea level.
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And that was the final mountain before
Marco felt ready to conquer Everest.
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In spring of 2001, a few weeks
before the planned Everest descent.
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Everyone in the climbing
group paid Russell $36,000.
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The 36,000 at Marco paid was
from his time working as a
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manager at his family's campsite.
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During the few weeks before
climbing season began, Marco
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became close with the locals.
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Most of them didn't speak English,
but that didn't matter to Marco.
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You would hang out with the Sherpas that
would help the group during their ascent.
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He wrote in their wagons
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and they were amused by him.
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They even gave him the name.
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Chicken pimp.
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Because he bought a $2 jacket
that Russell told him not to
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get because it was worthless.
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But Marco believed that there
were goose feathers in the jacket.
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Even though Russell told him
they were chicken feathers.
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But that didn't matter.
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And he still bought the jacket.
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It would start falling apart
and the feathers would get
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stuck on everyone in the group.
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So Marco walking around with a
featherless sleeveless jacket.
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Got him that interesting nickname.
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The locals really enjoyed Marco though.
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He was described as being truly authentic.
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To help pass the time Marco
would listen to rap music.
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He didn't understand, read his
favorite book, the little prince.
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And rack up huge bills talking
to his girlfriend, Stephanie.
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Using a satellite phone.
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And now it was may the time to ascend
Everest was here and Marco heard
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that a doctor named Stefan Gatt
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From Austria was also trying to
accomplish the exact same thing.
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He was.
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Descending Mount Everest on a snowboard.
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There was a bit of a race going on.
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Marco wanted to be first, but Stefan
started climbing before they did.
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Stefan, wasn't using Sherpas
or oxygen for his attempt?
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And Margo honestly, considered giving up.
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But before they started the
climb, the Sherpas did original
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Pooja offering to the gods.
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Marco was an atheist and had nothing to
offer, but he treated their beliefs with
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respect and offered his own snowboard.
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And maybe that gave him the luck
he needed because during his
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ascent, He heard news that Dr.
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Stephan had made it to the
bottom of Everest on a snowboard.
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But just when he was about to lose hope.
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Marco then heard that Stephen
had unstrapped his snowboard.
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And was disqualified for that reason.
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With his renewed spirits, he
continued to climb, but they
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had to make a change of plans.
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With this spring weather there,
wasn't a lot of snow on the mountain.
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Marco's original plan was to
come down the Hornbein Couloir.
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But the lack of snow made
that route impossible.
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Luckily, he did have a plan B.
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The Great.
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couloir appeared to have enough snow.
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So that was the route you would take.
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On May 23rd.
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The day after he turned 22, Marco
stood on top of Mount Everest.
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The court caused the bindings
on a snowboard to crack.
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But one of the Sherpas was able
to fix it with some rescue wire.
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He was wearing the talisman from his
friend's mom and he started his descent.
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He snowboarded down the
mountain going around.
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Climber is still going up.
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At one point, he stopped for
an hour to catch his breath.
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Before he continued on.
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He made it back to base
camp in four hours.
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And without unstrapping snowboard.
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Marco success spread internationally.
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Uh, 22 year old was the first person
to snowboard down Mount Everest.
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Some people felt he shouldn't have
been awarded the title because he used
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oxygen, but he was given it anyway.
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But that wasn't enough for Marco.
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He was warned to stop while he was ahead
and not take more unnecessary chances.
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But Marco needed to take
the chance one more time.
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The route he took was not the most
challenging or dangerous it was plan B.
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Marco wanted to succeed at plan a, the
route he was originally supposed to take.
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the Hornbein Couloir.
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So he started to prepare again and
went to Mount shisha pain that in
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the fall of 2001, To practice, but
the winds were too strong and Marco
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had to climb back down instead.
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Still the following summer, Marco
Russell, and two Sherpas went back to
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Shemini to plan the Everest descent.
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Various obstacles slowed them down
in Marco needed $50,000 to finance.
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The second Everest attempt.
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Marco didn't have sponsors.
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He didn't want them.
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And he barely did any competitions anyway.
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He didn't want photographers
to document his activities.
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Pretty much the only person he
allowed to take photos was Renee.
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or the Sherpas.
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Snowboarding was about
purity and being free.
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He didn't believe in fame and
thought it was distracting.
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But like clockwork.
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His father showed up the money.
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And Russell promised to send
the best Sherpas with Marco.
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Before leaving Shemini Marco hinted
at settling down with Stephanie and
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getting married when he returned.
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But on August 8th, 2002.
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Marco unknowingly left his hometown
of Shimoni or the last time.
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Marco met with three Sherpas and a
guide named Oliver best on in Kathmandu.
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Russell, would it be
with the group this time?
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He was in the Himalayas,
helping with another group.
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Since Marco was his only client
wanting to do Everest at the time.
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He would study the north face of
Everest with binoculars and could
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see a lot of small avalanches.
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He needed to wait for the snow to settle.
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This wasn't the traditional time
decline due to the dangerous weather.
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The mum was practically empty of
climbers, but to Marco, it was perfect.
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The increase of snow,
met snowboarding down.
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His dream route would be possible.
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But with all of the avalanches
and the strong winds, that part of
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Everest was starting to become bear.
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Marco was in charge of his climbing group.
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So he controlled how fast
everyone ascended and pushed
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everyone to climb faster.
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He started to show potential
signs of altitude sickness.
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He had a constant headache
and felt tired and lonely.
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He racked up huge phone
bills, calling a meteorologist
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Named Jaan Gissendaner and
his girlfriend back home.
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The changing weather and snow
storms cause more delays.
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The group explored the north
side on August 28th and Marco
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snowboarded on the way back.
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That night, there was another
snowstorm and they spent the next
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few days trying to make any plans.
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They were constantly calling you on
back home for updates about the weather,
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but the weather changed every day.
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And then on September 4th, Yon said
the eighth would be ideal weather.
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So mark will begin climbing on the six.
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He called his parents and told them he was
still at the lower camp to not worry them.
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But by the seventh, the group
had entered the death zone.
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When the weatherman called Mirko and
warranted to descend quickly because
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that evening the weather would turn
bad and he wasn't sure what the
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weather would look like on Sunday.
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The day, Marco wanted to attempt
his second descent of Everest.
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Ending that phone call Yon Gissendaner
would later say the way Marco ended the
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call was off and it scared him a little.
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Normally ending a conversation with
someone you plan to see again, they
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would say are revoir, but Marco said
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I do.
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Which is something you say when you
aren't planning to see someone again.
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Morocco quickly called another friend
after that instead of the snowfall.
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Great.
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And he felt strong, but
the phone ended up dying.
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And then they started the
final push to the summit.
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They struggled to make it to the top.
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They were up to their chest
in snow and the Sherpas were
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working hard to help mark up.
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At 2:00 PM, they reached the peak and
it took three times longer to get there.
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Then the first time they went.
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When they were up there, Margo
voiced how tired he was from all
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the climbing from too much snow.
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But the Sherpas could
see the clouds moving.
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Indicating the storm was coming and
knew they needed to get back down soon.
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They tried to tell Marco
to abandon the plan.
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It was late after 3:00 PM.
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But Marco had set his sights on
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coming down Everest that day.
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Before going up, people said
they saw a change in his eyes.
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He looked determined like this was it.
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It was now or never, and nothing was
going to stop him from reaching his goal.
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They couldn't persuade him otherwise.
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So Marco changed his oxygen
and in his backpack, he had
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more oxygen, water into rope.
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And without his talisman, since
he left it back in chimney.
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Marco looked at the Sherpas and
one of them told him to take care.
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And Marco said, okay.
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See you tomorrow.
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And then he went down the mountain.
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The sheriff has quickly started
making their way back down, not
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wanting to be caught in the store,
but could see Marco in the distance.
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At the same time, new spread
around chimney that Marco
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reached the top of Everest.
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And that's how his parents found out
that he had actually started climbing.
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But while everyone was cheering for
him, his parents could only worry.
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Because the only thing they could think
of was the time difference between
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Nepal and France meant that at the time
of them hearing about Marco's assent,
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It should have actually been news
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about his descent.
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He should've been down by now.
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But they heard nothing.
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The only thing his mother
could think of was not again.
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They already lost one
child to the mountains.
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The second one would be
impossible to handle.
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While marco descended the mountain.
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Oliver watch through binoculars.
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As long as he could from base
camp before losing sight of Marco.
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And hoping he made it to a camp that
the yak shepherd was preparing for him.
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But now the Sherpas were arriving at camp
three and saw the outline of a person.
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At first, they were upset because this
person didn't turn on a light for them.
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they thought it was all over,
who was supposed to be keeping
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track of Marquardt base camp.
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But then they realized it
had to be someone else.
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Except they couldn't figure out who,
because no one was supposed to be on the
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slope that day, except for their group.
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Once they got to the camp,
they realized no one was there.
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They weren't footprints or traces
of anyone being at camp and Marco.
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should have been much lower
by now, or even at base camp.
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By the time the Sherpas
made it to base camp.
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Still no one had heard from Marco.
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All anyone could think about.
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With how he didn't come down on
September 8th, like he was supposed to.
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He didn't come down the day
after, or even the day after that.
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And by that point, everyone
considered him dead.
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' because to survive that long
and Everest was impossible.
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Margot was never seen again.
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And the Sherpas felt that the silhouette
they saw in the distance on the
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mountain was Marcos in their own way.
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They felt it was his spirit because
he didn't come down the mountain.
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And no one knows where he's at today.
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Where his tracks ended.
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There was nowhere for him to
fall into a crevasse or disappear
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off the side of the mountain.
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It was a suitable area for
snowboarding, nothing too
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difficult for talented athlete.
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Like Marco.
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His friends and family went to the
mountain to search his tracks were
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still visible and nobody could
figure out what happened to him.
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To this day, there have
been no traces of anything.
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Belonging to Marco that
had ever been found.
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His father believes he sat down
to rest and was so exhausted.
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He fell asleep and died.
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Or there's believe he fell either off
the mountain or into a provide us, even
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though there were none along his route.
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Some say a small avalanche could have
taken him and the Sherpas just didn't
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see it because sometimes that can happen.
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His sister who was pregnant at the time of
this tragedy believes he got down safely.
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And since he accomplished his dream,
decided to quietly go live life in
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the local village, near the mountain.
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